paper on infrastructure evolution patterns

02 Mar 2018

Dear colleagues of the DFT and Data Fabric Group,
I would like to inform you about a paper George Strawn and I have written and which is based on many discussions in DFIG, DFT and other RDA groups. We wrote a paper where we compare the evolution of different large infrastructures, extract some patterns and compare it with the state of the data domain.
http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
If you like reading it, it would be fine for us to get your comments.
The C2CAMP is not quite ready, therefore I attach the flyer to explain.
best
Peter
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Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
RDA Europe Director

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  • Lesley Wyborn's picture

    Author: Lesley Wyborn

    Date: 23 Apr, 2018

    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?

  • Peter Wittenburg's picture

    Author: Peter Wittenburg

    Date: 24 Apr, 2018

    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
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  • Lesley Wyborn's picture

    Author: Lesley Wyborn

    Date: 24 Apr, 2018

    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
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  • Peter Wittenburg's picture

    Author: Peter Wittenburg

    Date: 25 Apr, 2018

    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-fabric-ig/post/paper-infrastructu...
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    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
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  • Lesley Wyborn's picture

    Author: Lesley Wyborn

    Date: 25 Apr, 2018

    Hi Peter
    I have copied Stefanie Kethers in on this.
    She ran a BoF at the RDA Berlin plenary around the topic of RDA outputs and supporting outputs (https://rd-alliance.org/towards-fairer-rda-outputs-rda-11th-plenary-bof-... )
    It’s a good report uip have written, and it would be great if we can get it endorsed as an RDA supporting output.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 2:54 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-fabric-ig/post/paper-infrastructu...
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    Hi Peter
    I have copied Stefanie Kethers in on this.
    She ran a BoF at the RDA Berlin plenary around the topic of RDA outputs and supporting outputs (https://rd-alliance.org/towards-fairer-rda-outputs-rda-11th-plenary-bof-... )
    It’s a good report uip have written, and it would be great if we can get it endorsed as an RDA supporting output.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 2:54 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
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  • Peter Wittenburg's picture

    Author: Peter Wittenburg

    Date: 25 Apr, 2018

    Thanks Lesley.
    I will also cc to George.
    Let me mention that much of the work grew in the Data Fabric IG.
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Mittwoch, 25. April 2018 07:19
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Cc: Stefanie Kethers; Andrew Treloar
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    I have copied Stefanie Kethers in on this.
    She ran a BoF at the RDA Berlin plenary around the topic of RDA outputs and supporting outputs (https://rd-alliance.org/towards-fairer-rda-outputs-rda-11th-plenary-bof-... )
    It’s a good report uip have written, and it would be great if we can get it endorsed as an RDA supporting output.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 2:54 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-fabric-ig/post/paper-infrastructu...
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    Thanks Lesley.
    I will also cc to George.
    Let me mention that much of the work grew in the Data Fabric IG.
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Mittwoch, 25. April 2018 07:19
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Cc: Stefanie Kethers; Andrew Treloar
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    I have copied Stefanie Kethers in on this.
    She ran a BoF at the RDA Berlin plenary around the topic of RDA outputs and supporting outputs (https://rd-alliance.org/towards-fairer-rda-outputs-rda-11th-plenary-bof-... )
    It’s a good report uip have written, and it would be great if we can get it endorsed as an RDA supporting output.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 2:54 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Well – what to say :)
    Just refer to the DOI if you like.
    We should bring it to the attention of the RDA folks indeed to make it a “supported output”. This is something we need to consider.
    best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    From: Lesley Wyborn [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 08:23
    To: Wittenburg, Peter; Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Hi Peter
    Thanks for this.
    I guess I am being a little bit old fashioned and not too familiar with how to cite this type of literature.
    I have cited this in a project proposal and I am not sure if you cite this as an RDA report or whether this is a EUDAT report or what, or whether the DOI or handle are sufficient.
    Take care
    Lesley
    From: "Wittenburg, Peter" <***@***.***>
    Date: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 4:14 pm
    To: Lesley Wyborn <***@***.***>, Data Fabric IG <***@***.***-groups.org>
    Subject: RE: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    Dear Lesley, all,
    you can find it here – use DOI or Handle.
    Common Patterns in Revolutionary Infrastructures and Data
    http://doi.org/10.23728/b2share.4e8ac36c0dd343da81fd9e83e72805a0
    http://hdl.handle.net/11304/34c5c223-adf9-49fa-9afe-968a7a932970
    After a round of commenting we might want to create an updated version. Not clear yet.
    Best
    Peter
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Peter Wittenburg Tel: +49 15141858784 Skype: peterwittenburg1
    ***@***.***; www.mpcdf.mpg.de/~pewi
    Max Planck Computing and Data Facility
    - Show quoted text -From: lesley.wyborn=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Wyborn
    Sent: Dienstag, 24. April 2018 00:46
    To: Data Fabric IG
    Subject: Re: [rda-datafabric-ig] paper on infrastructure evolution patterns
    How do you officially cite this paper - is it an RDA publication or what?
    --
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  • Tobias Weigel's picture

    Author: Tobias Weigel

    Date: 25 Apr, 2018

    Hi Lesley, Peter, all,
    I think the paper written by Peter and George could be first
    disseminated well by using Zenodo, arxiv or similar repositories. Or you
    could go the more formal route of putting this out into relevant
    conferences or journals, which will provide peer review. Just saying:
    there are multiple options well known and established in academia for
    these kinds of discussion papers, but I'm not sure it fits the role of
    supporting outputs in general given the outcomes of the P11 discussion.
    Best, Tobias

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