status: Withdrawn
Chair (s): Stefanie Kethers, Andrew Treloar
Group Email: [group_email]
Secretariat Liaison: [field_secretariat_liaison]
Thank you to everyone who participated in the session at the 4th RDA Plenary!
Please find below the slides used by the speakers:
Brief introductory presentation from the chairs (5 mins) - slides
Brief presentations (about 10 mins each) on different perspectives on eResearch sustainability issues:
- Amir Aryani (Australian National Data Service) - slides
- Jamie Shiers (CERN and Manager of the Data Preservation for Long-Term Analysis in High Energy Physics (DPHEP)) - slides
- Susanna-Assunta Sansone (University of Oxford e-Research Centre, Consultant for the Nature Publishing Group (NPG)) - slides
Open discussion of questions such as:
- How to build eResearch tools
- How to maintain them
- How to promote them
- How to build a community around them
- How to turn tools into services
and other questions that the participants would like to bring up
Aim of the session:
Gauge interest in setting up an RDA Interest group on this topic.
Email sent out to BoF participants on 23 Dec 2014:
Dear BoF participants,
Thank you for attending the BoF on Sustainability of eResearch / Cyberinfrastructure BoF at the 4th RDA Plenary in Amsterdam.
You can find the presentations here:
- Introduction: https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/BoF_Sustainability_RDA_P4_Intro_SK%2BAET.pdf#overlay-context=group/sustainability-eresearch-cyberinfrastructure.html
- Amir Aryani: https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/Bof-%20Sustainability%20of%20eResearch%20-%20cyberinfrastructure.pdf#overlay-context=group/sustainability-eresearch-cyberinfrastructure.html
- Jamie Shiers: https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/RDA4-sustainability_JS.pdf#overlay-context=group/sustainability-eresearch-cyberinfrastructure.html
- Susanna-Assunta Sansone: http://www.slideshare.net/SusannaSansone/rda-bof-on-sustainability-my-experience-with-isa-tools
Some brief notes of the questions and comments voiced in the session:
- Cost:
- What are other models for sustainability, beyond grant funding?
- How can we identify cost?
- Some tools (xml tools) have been taken up by a community who willingly pays for the maintenance.
- This group should connect to the Cost recovery models IG
- Technical sustainability:
- Why has open source not worked? Very few commercial open source applications have been successful in scaling.
- There is a life cycle for tools.
- Need to make sure maintenance is easy.
- Two different aspects: develop a new application vs harden an application so it can be used by anybody.
- Social aspects:
- What is the role of institutions?
- No direct recognition for building / maintaining infrastructure
With regard to the outcomes of the BoF, we think that the concerns and views shared were very interesting and covered a wide range of aspects, but we did not recognize a focussed area that the group could work on, either as a WG or an IG. If you saw such an area, or would like to propose one, please let us know.
Thank you very much!
Best wishes,
Stefanie Kethers / Andrew Treloar (BoF convenors)
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