Fwd: Data licensing - without rights to redistribute?

16 Feb 2017

Hi everyone,
Please see the query from Sarah (ccd), below. Any thoughts?
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  • Puneet Kishor's picture

    Author: Puneet Kishor

    Date: 16 Feb, 2017

    Yeah, my thoughts (hi Sarah!): it's been thought, been rejected
    Every so often (more often than should be), someone comes up with the perceived need to create a license that would permit “free, but not so free" distribution. Let’s be clear: CC licenses were never, are not, and will likely never be suitable for or rejigged to allow such kind of free-but-not-free reuse.
    The perceived need [a] (“so we can track usage”) cannot be accomplished by CC. So, if you are planning to use CC, just forget about this. Change your expectation. You are using CC to achieve widespread (as much as possible) redistribution and reuse of your content, and *anything* that hampers that objective is against the goals and capabilities of CC.
    The perceived need [b] ("so they’re getting the data they expect, not a slightly different, slightly fiddled with version”) is expressed more often than should be, by practitioners of certain disciplines more than other, etc. But this need is completely bogus. If CC licenses are used correctly, in the manner prescribed, every modified work (derivative work) will be clearly marked with the URL of the original content as well as the nature of the change in the derived content. The purpose of CC is not to promote original-content-fidelity but to promote content reuse and expand creativity, but also making a link back to the original content, always.
    So, the shorter answer (which should have been tl;dr-ed by me), not giving rights to redistribute is counter to the notion of making your content free. It’s been thought, it’s been rejected.
    Here is some related reading: http://punkish.org/Shouldn't-Wouldn't-Couldn't
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    Author: Sridhar Gutam

    Date: 16 Feb, 2017

    Thank you Punkish
    It cleared many of my doubts and understanding. Yes, "CC to achieve
    widespread (as much as possible) redistribution and reuse of your content".
    Thank you
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  • ENRIQUE  ALONSO GARCIA's picture

    Author: ENRIQUE ALONSO...

    Date: 16 Feb, 2017

    Very interesting. Thanks Puneet
    -----Mensaje original-----
    De: punk.kish=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] En nombre de punkish
    Enviado el: jueves, 16 de febrero de 2017 10:27
    Para: Simon Hodson; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
    CC: Sarah Callaghan
    Asunto: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Fwd: Data licensing - without rights to redistribute?
    Yeah, my thoughts (hi Sarah!): it's been thought, been rejected
    Every so often (more often than should be), someone comes up with the perceived need to create a license that would permit “free, but not so free" distribution. Let’s be clear: CC licenses were never, are not, and will likely never be suitable for or rejigged to allow such kind of free-but-not-free reuse.
    The perceived need [a] (“so we can track usage”) cannot be accomplished by CC. So, if you are planning to use CC, just forget about this. Change your expectation. You are using CC to achieve widespread (as much as possible) redistribution and reuse of your content, and *anything* that hampers that objective is against the goals and capabilities of CC.
    The perceived need [b] ("so they’re getting the data they expect, not a slightly different, slightly fiddled with version”) is expressed more often than should be, by practitioners of certain disciplines more than other, etc. But this need is completely bogus. If CC licenses are used correctly, in the manner prescribed, every modified work (derivative work) will be clearly marked with the URL of the original content as well as the nature of the change in the derived content. The purpose of CC is not to promote original-content-fidelity but to promote content reuse and expand creativity, but also making a link back to the original content, always.
    So, the shorter answer (which should have been tl;dr-ed by me), not giving rights to redistribute is counter to the notion of making your content free. It’s been thought, it’s been rejected.
    Here is some related reading: http://punkish.org/Shouldn't-Wouldn't-Couldn't
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  • Donat Agosti's picture

    Author: Donat Agosti

    Date: 22 Feb, 2017

    This announcement by ESA might be of interest to this group
    OPEN ACCESS AT THE EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY
    For more than two decades, ESA has been sharing vast amounts of information, imagery and data with scientists, industry, media and the public at large via digital platforms such as the web and social media. A new Open Access policy for ESA’s infor...
    http://open.esa.int/
    cheers
    donat

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