Hi all,
I take this middle-summer-cool-down opportunity to raise by email a
question. about publishing the results of the WDI group.
It has been discussed a couple of time informally but I don't know if some
did took a decision.
Should we consider submitting the results of the WDI group for journal
publication ?
There have been deliverables, products, and guidelines. RDA is made for
making people meet and work, but what stays over time (and are important for
evaluation) are journal publications.
I know a bunch of countries/organizations that will not restraint themselves
as we do when considering publishing ;)
We should not restrict ourselves either.
Esther, Richard, what do you think?
Clement
PS: In case everyone is in vacation. mid next week for me.; I will resume
the thread in September !
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Author: Alex Whan
Date: 26 Jul, 2016
I think this is a very important conclusion to the work that was put in - somebody needs to put their hand up to lead it and make it happen!
In my opinion it could be really quite a brief paper, and aside from having something tangible to remain in the literature, it will give another opportunity to point researchers towards the guidelines.
Alex.
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Subject: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hi all,
I take this middle-summer-cool-down opportunity to raise by email a question... about publishing the results of the WDI group.
It has been discussed a couple of time informally but I don't know if some did took a decision.
Should we consider submitting the results of the WDI group for journal publication ?
There have been deliverables, products, and guidelines. RDA is made for making people meet and work, but what stays over time (and are important for evaluation) are journal publications.
I know a bunch of countries/organizations that will not restraint themselves as we do when considering publishing ;)
We should not restrict ourselves either.
Esther, Richard, what do you think?
Clement
PS: In case everyone is in vacation... mid next week for me...; I will resume the thread in September !
Dr. Clement JONQUET - PhD in Informatics - Assistant Professor
University of Montpellier
Coordinator of the SIFR and AgroPortal projects
Visiting scholar, Stanford University (EU Marie Curie fellow)
***@***.***
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Author: Pierre LARMANDE
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
Dear All,
indeed this is an important step that we should overcome.
I suggested to Ester few weeks ago submitting at http://f1000research.com/ . I think the journal has a good audience, remember some RDA Groups already published there furthermore it have channel such as http://f1000research.com/channels/okad or http://f1000research.com/channels/elixir-reports where we could adress the results.
Best
Author: Imma Subirats Coll
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
I second the idea of submitting to F1000Research!
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Subject: Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Dear All,
indeed this is an important step that we should overcome.
I suggested to Ester few weeks ago submitting at http://f1000research.com/. I think the journal has a good audience, remember some RDA Groups already published there furthermore it have channel such as http://f1000research.com/channels/okad or http://f1000research.com/channels/elixir-reports where we could adress the results.
Best
Pierre.
Le 27 juil. 2016 à 01:32, alexwhan <***@***.***> a écrit :
I think this is a very important conclusion to the work that was put in – somebody needs to put their hand up to lead it and make it happen!
In my opinion it could be really quite a brief paper, and aside from having something tangible to remain in the literature, it will give another opportunity to point researchers towards the guidelines.
Alex.
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Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 4:16 AM
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Subject: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hi all,
I take this middle-summer-cool-down opportunity to raise by email a question… about publishing the results of the WDI group.
It has been discussed a couple of time informally but I don’t know if some did took a decision.
Should we consider submitting the results of the WDI group for journal publicati on ?
There have been deliverables, products, and guidelines. RDA is made for making people meet and work, but what stays over time (and are important for evaluation) are journal publications.
I know a bunch of countries/organizations that will not restraint themselves as we do when considering publishing ;)
We should not restrict ourselves either.
Esther, Richard, what do you think?
Clement
PS: In case everyone is in vacation … mid next week for me…; I will resume the thread in September !
Dr. Clement JONQUET - PhD in Informatics - Assistant Professor
University of Montpellier
Coordinator of the SIFR and AgroPortal projects
Visiting scholar, Stanford University (EU Marie Curie fellow)
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Author: Pierre LARMANDE
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
I forgot to mention that the publication process is different in F1000.
Submitted manuscripts are directly published on the web site, then there is an open review.
Pierre
Author: Vassilis Proton...
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
You can find more information on the review and publication process of F1000 at http://f1000research.com/about
And please count me in for this effort; even though I may not be in the position to lead the effort, I would be more than happy to contribute bits and pieces to the structure and content of the publication, do the proofreading etc. J
Best regards,
Vassilis
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Subject: Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
I forgot to mention that the publication process is different in F1000.
Submitted manuscripts are directly published on the web site, then there is an open review.
Pierre
Le 27 juil. 2016 à 09:48, subirats <***@***.***> a écrit :
I second the idea of submitting to F1000Research!
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Subject: Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Dear All,
indeed this is an important step that we should overcome.
I suggested to Ester few weeks ago submitting at http://f1000research.com/. I think the journal has a good audience, remember some RDA Groups already published there furthermore it have channel such as http://f1000research.com/channels/okad or http://f1000research.com/channels/elixir-reports where we could adress the results.
Best
Pierre.
Le 27 juil. 2016 à 01:32, alexwhan <***@***.***> a écrit :
I think this is a very important conclusion to the work that was put in – somebody needs to put their hand up to lead it and make it happen!
In my opinion it could be really quite a brief paper, and aside from having something tangible to remain in the literature, it will give another opportunity to point researchers towards the guidelines.
Alex.
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To: ***@***.***; 'FULSS, Richard Allan James (CIMMYT)' <***@***.***>; Wheat Data Interoperability WG <***@***.***-groups.org>
Subject: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hi all,
I take this middle-summer-cool-down opportunity to raise by email a question… about publishing the results of the WDI group.
It has been discussed a couple of time informally but I don’t know if some did took a decision.
Should we consider submitting the results of the WDI group for journal publicati on ?
There have been deliverables, products, and guidelines. RDA is made for making people meet and work, but what stays over time (and are important for evaluation) are journal publications.
I know a bunch of countries/organizations that will not restraint themselves as we do when considering publishing ;)
We should not restrict ourselves either.
Esther, Richard, what do you think?
Clement
PS: In case everyone is in vacation … mid next week for me…; I will resume the thread in September !
Dr. Clement JONQUET - PhD in Informatics - Assistant Professor
University of Montpellier
Coordinator of the SIFR and AgroPortal projects
Visiting scholar, Stanford University (EU Marie Curie fellow)
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Author: Sridhar Gutam
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
Hi everyone...
Its a very good idea to go with F1000.... is there anything I can
contribute from my side for the work/publication??
Thanks
Sridhar
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Author: Esther DZALE YEUMO
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
Hi Clement and Everyone,
I am of course in favour of publishing the outputs in a journal. To
second Alex's opinion, I think it could be quite brief and point towards
the website which is meant to contain the updated guidelines.
Please find enclosed a very rough draft which could be a starting point.
Feel free to throw it away. Please note that starting tomorrow evening,
I will be on vacation. Do not hesitate to go forward in the meanwhile.
All the best,
Esther
Author: Clement Jonquet
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
Hi all,
Great to see the idea is shared, and thanks for the suggestions and preliminary work.
Why not going for F1000, it sounds a bit more life sciences / bio that agro, but indeed there is the OKAD channel. We just have to be sure the paper will be reviewed otherwise, it is just a listed there and I don’t know when someone can call it “published”.
Bye all and indeed have great vacations.
Clement
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Hi Clement and Everyone,
I am of course in favour of publishing the outputs in a journal. To second Alex's opinion, I think it could be quite brief and point towards the website which is meant to contain the updated guidelines.
Please find enclosed a very rough draft which could be a starting point. Feel free to throw it away. Please note that starting tomorrow evening, I will be on vacation. Do not hesitate to go forward in the meanwhile.
All the best,
Esther
Le 27/07/2016 à 10:08, SridharGutam a écrit :
Hi everyone...
Its a very good idea to go with F1000.... is there anything I can contribute from my side for the work/publication??
Thanks
Sridhar
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Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) ｜ Associate Editor, DOAJ
｜ Convener, Open Access India
ICAR Research Complex for Eastern Region
Research Centre Ranchi
Tata Road, Rajaulatu Post, Plandu, Ranchi 834010, Jharkhand, India
Phone: +91-651-2260141 ｜ Fax: +91-651-2260101 ｜ Mobile:+91-9005760036/8005346136
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On 27 July 2016 at 13:30, vprot <***@***.*** > wrote:
You can find more information on the review and publication process of F1000 at http://f1000research.com/about
And please count me in for this effort; even though I may not be in the position to lead the effort, I would be more than happy to contribute bits and pieces to the structure and content of the publication, do the proofreading etc. :)
Best regards,
Vassilis
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Subject: Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
I forgot to mention that the publication process is different in F1000.
Submitted manuscripts are directly published on the web site, then there is an open review.
Pierre
Le 27 juil. 2016 à 09:48, subirats <***@***.*** > a écrit :
I second the idea of submitting to F1000Research!
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To: alexwhan <***@***.*** >; Wheat Data Interoperability WG <***@***.***-groups.org >
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Subject: Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Dear All,
indeed this is an important step that we should overcome.
I suggested to Ester few weeks ago submitting at http://f1000research.com/. I think the journal has a good audience, remember some RDA Groups already published there furthermore it have channel such as http://f1000research.com/channels/okad or http://f1000research.com/channels/elixir-reports where we could adress the results.
Best
Pierre.
Le 27 juil. 2016 à 01:32, alexwhan < ***@***.***> a écrit :
I think this is a very important conclusion to the work that was put in – somebody needs to put their hand up to lead it and make it happen!
In my opinion it could be really quite a brief paper, and aside from having something tangible to remain in the literature, it will give another opportunity to point researchers towards the guidelines.
Alex.
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Subject: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hi all,
I take this middle-summer-cool-down opportunity to raise by email a question… about publishing the results of the WDI group.
It has been discussed a couple of time informally but I don’t know if some did took a decision.
Should we consider submitting the results of the WDI group for journal publicati on ?
There have been deliverables, products, and guidelines. RDA is made for making people meet and work, but what stays over time (and are important for evaluation) are journal publications.
I know a bunch of countries/organizations that will not restraint themselves as we do when considering publishing ;)
We should not restrict ourselves either.
Esther, Richard, what do you think?
Clement
PS: In case everyone is in vacation … mid next week for me…; I will resume the thread in September !
Dr. Clement JONQUET - PhD in Informatics - Assistant Professor
University of Montpellier
Coordinator of the SIFR and AgroPortal projects
Visiting scholar, Stanford University (EU Marie Curie fellow)
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Author: Laurel Cooper
Date: 27 Jul, 2016
Hi All,
I agree that it would be beneficial to all to get this written up in
a publication. We talked about this last summer at the meeting in
Paris, but then we all got busy afterwards.
We discussed a publication in F1000 and also a "White Paper".
Here's the links to the Google docs we started
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4v9XHmIfRL-9jH-g9-yPwPrqVv911nLcvAU...
[1]
and
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Y-opurYXiLf5vpS2UjkuvVKOSgp25T6B0Fk...
[2]
Also, I have in dropbox a draft version of the White Paper that was
started by Carme
Reverté and Imma Subirats (attached)
I am happy to contribute but am quite tied up till about the
beginning of September- next week we are hosting the Int'l
ICBO meeting here, then we have another manuscript due Sept
1st for the Planteome Project. Somewhere in there I will be
on vacation with the family as well.
Best, Laurel
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Hi
all,
Great to see the idea is shared, and thanks for
the suggestions and preliminary work.
Why not going for F1000, it sounds a bit more
life sciences / bio that agro, but indeed there is the OKAD
channel. We just have to be sure the paper will be reviewed
otherwise, it is just
a listed there and I don’t know when someone can call it
“published”.
Bye all and indeed have great vacations.
Clement
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submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hi Clement and Everyone,
I am of course in favour of publishing the outputs in a
journal. To second Alex's opinion, I think it could be quite
brief and point towards the website which is meant to
contain the updated guidelines.
Please find enclosed a very rough draft which could be a
starting point. Feel free to throw it away. Please note that
starting tomorrow evening, I will be on vacation. Do not
hesitate to go forward in the meanwhile.
All the best,
Esther
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Author: Vassilis Proton...
Date: 28 Jul, 2016
Hi Laurel, all,
Thank you for sharing the GDocs; I believe that they could help us build a first draft quickly. I suggest that we use the first GDoc for collaborative editing/contributing and the second one as a source of information.
If you all agree with my proposal, I invite everyone to contribute to the authoring of the paper whenever he/she has some time to work on that, using the first GDoc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4v9XHmIfRL-9jH-g9-yPwPrqVv911nLcvAU...). There is no rush (as there is no deadline for the submission), so it is up to anyone to find some time for that. I will try to start building on that within August, while everyone else will be on holidays (more or less).
Best regards,
Vassilis
Author: Michael Alaux
Date: 11 Aug, 2016
Hello Clément and everyone,
I am also in favour of publishing the outputs in a journal.
I started to add few sentences in the google doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4v9XHmIfRL-9jH-g9-yPwPrqVv911nLcvAU...
Best regards
Michael
Author: Clement Jonquet
Date: 13 Sep, 2016
Hi all,
On this track: Esther and me had been writing a few line about the wheat slice in AgroPortal that we will copy/paste soon in a shared doc.
Maybe we should use the GODAN Summit and RDA P8 to discuss this in a side meeting ;)
I am in NY, who’s in Denver ?
Clement
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Envoyé : jeudi 11 août 2016 09:11
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Objet : Re: [rda-wdinterop-wg] Considering submitting WDI results for journal publication ?
Hello Clément and everyone,
I am also in favour of publishing the outputs in a journal.
I started to add few sentences in the google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4v9XHmIfRL-9jH-g9-yPwPrqVv911nLcvAU...
Best regards
Michael
Le 28/07/2016 à 10:03, vprot a écrit :
Hi Laurel,
Thank you for sharing the GDocs; I believe that they could help us build a first draft quickly. I suggest that we use the first GDoc for collaborative editing/contributing and the second one as a source of information.
If you agree with my proposal, I invite everyone to contribute to the authoring of the paper whenever he/she has some time to work on that, using the first GDoc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4v9XHmIfRL-9jH-g9-yPwPrqVv911nLcvAU... ). There is no rush (as there is no deadline for the submission), so it is up to anyone to find some time for that. I will try to start building on that within August, while everyone else will be on holidays (more or less).
Best regards,
Vassilis
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